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Tuesday, September 7, 2010

"Is Intelligent Design Viable?" William Lane Craig vs. Francisco Ayala


Jonathan M.
September 7, 2010
Evolution News and Views

Late last year, the eminent Christian philosopher and proponent of intelligent design, William Lane Craig, crossed swords in debate with the avid apologist for Darwinian evolution, Francisco Ayala, of the Biologos Foundation. The debate was chaired by philosopher of physics Bradley Monton of the University of Colorado, an ID sympathizer, though a convinced atheist himself. Monton is the author of the book, Seeking God in Science: An Atheist Defends Intelligent Design. A fascinating ID the Future interview with Professor Monton can be downloaded here.

Following Dr. Ayala's opening statement, Dr. Craig commenced his presentation by carefully setting out the definition of ID as the study of legitimate design inferences. Craig stipulated that, were Ayala to attempt to refute the inference to design with respect to biological systems, he would need to do one of two things. Either Ayala would need to directly challenge the legitimacy of the explanatory filter (presumably by demonstrating that it incorporates false positives) or demonstrate that the systems featured in biology do not meet the criteria of the explanatory filter. Setting aside the discussions pertaining to the tenability of universal common ancestry, Craig set about to argue that Ayala's attempts to disqualify ID on scientific grounds were doomed because he had failed to demonstrate, in his published work, that the dual forces of random mutation and natural selection, are causally sufficient to account for macroevolution. He also argued that Ayala's more numerous attempts to disqualify ID on theological grounds are completely irrelevant to the process of drawing a design inference from biological phenomena, because none of the arguments for ID aspire to show that the designer possesses the qualities of omnibenevolence or omnipotence. After all, Craig argued, a design inference is still warranted with respect to a medieval torture rack, regardless of the malevolent purposes of the system's design. Questions pertaining to the nature of the designer are for natural theology, not for the scientific research program of ID. This is what distinguishes the modern concept of ID from the Watchmaker argument of William Paley's Natural Theology.
Amazingly, Dr. Ayala completely avoided the arguments that had been presented and instead opted to construct his case against ID on theological grounds. This approach had a taint of irony, as the theologian attempted to focus the debate on science, while the scientist attempted to focus the debate on theology. Ayala's few scientific points, such as the claim that Behe used the eye as an example of an irreducibly complex system, significantly misconstrued the position of proponents of ID.

Craig responded to all of Ayala's arguments during the rebuttal period, and also ventured down the theological rabbit trail into which Ayala had invited him. Craig thus took time to explore the theological problem of evil for the existence of God. He also called Ayala out on his misconstrual of Michael Behe's book, Darwin's Black Box, in which he argues that the biochemistry of vision -- not the anatomical structure of the eye -- is irreducibly complex.

In short, the debate winded up being quite one-sided, with Ayala essentially ignoring the central elements of Craig's presentation. Ayala would bring up items related to theology, categorized by Craig as irrelevant, and the few scientific remarks he did make were chiefly concerned with the proposition of common ancestry or with the limited explicative powers of natural selection, also categorized by Craig as beside the point.

The debate can be viewed in full on youtube. Here's the first clip:
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  1. AVB34September 7, 2010 at 2:07 PM

    The ID vs. Evolution debate is a Protestant issue and should not concern Orthodox Christians. The whole debate revolves around the false Protestant view that the Earth is 6,000 years old.

    Orthodoxy has nothing to fear from science because science can only shed light on the truth, not contradict it. The problem isn't science, it's scientists. Many scientists often try to pass on their own ideologically driven interpretations of scientific discoveries as facts. Stephen Hawking's recent attempt to characterize his own atheistic beliefs as fact is the perfect example.

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  2. J.SanidopoulosSeptember 7, 2010 at 5:54 PM

    You mistakenly Identify Intelligent Design as Creationism, AVB. It is not Creationism. Refer to other posts I have made on ID, which I find perfectly compatible with Scripture and the Church Fathers, since it has no theological position, but a scientific one.

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  3. AVB34September 7, 2010 at 7:27 PM

    If by ID you simply mean that the universe was created by an intelligent being, then I would agree that it is not the same as Creationism.

    But the ID proponents seem to have this fixation with evolution, and seem to be looking for scientific proof for the existence of God. I personally believe that there will never be any definitive proof one way or the other. If God's existence were proven then people would turn to God out of fear and not out of love. This would make man's existence pretty meaningless, just a bunch of scared people begging God for mercy. I do not believe that this is what God intended for the human race. I believe that His intention is for man to discover Him through love and not through science.

    Science has it's place and can teach us much about creation but ultimately God's signature is in the human soul not in the human DNA.

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  4. J.SanidopoulosSeptember 7, 2010 at 7:29 PM

    Granted, people who espouse ID may have some faulty theology, but ID itself is not a theological theory but a scientific one. Proper ID science does not make theological statements.

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  5. AVB34September 7, 2010 at 7:56 PM

    I think that any enterprise that seeks proof of God's existence is operating under a false premise, i.e. that such proof actually exists.

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  6. J.SanidopoulosSeptember 7, 2010 at 8:41 PM

    I agree, but ID doesnt do that.

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  7. MatteoSeptember 13, 2010 at 11:16 AM

    "I think that any enterprise that seeks proof of God's existence is operating under a false premise, i.e. that such proof actually exists."

    Then you are in disagreement with St. Paul viz: Romans 1:18.

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